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Nisus Writer For MacOS X Screenshots
posted by acaben on Tuesday December 17, @09:54AM
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    Nisus Writer For MacOS X Screenshots | Login/Create an Account | Top | 18 comments | Search Discussion
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    Okito Composer (Score:1)
    by macbert (macbert AT hcity DOT net) on Tuesday December 17, @10:33AM (#6134)
    User #432 Info | http://www.hcity.net/mac
    Wow, when Nisus bought Okito I thought that they would do a lot more to the Composer editor than that. The last release from Okito was a fully functional Word Processor and I use it often.
    Old Nisus Writer (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 17, @10:13AM (#6168)
    I loved the old Nisus Writer. The ability to change modes (outline, etc.) quickly was very useful. I'm glad to see that they are still working on products that can compete against M$.
    Interesting...! (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 17, @12:28PM (#6169)

    My first thought was...why do we need another word processor for the Mac? But I checked out the screenshots...it looks very cool.

    It's Cocoa! You see those side panels stretching out? That looks like a very clean way to do formatting interface.

    No support for Word files, but maybe some of the tools from wvWare will help.

    Great to see if finally moving along ... (Score:1)
    by AgtAlpha on Tuesday December 17, @02:02PM (#6222)
    User #4101 Info | http://macslash.org/
    Nisus has been up to this new version of Writer for some time. I've been anxiously awaiting this. Especially since they have an excellent outline mode, great find and replace, and non-contiguous selections. They were also one of the first to have great multi-lingual processing abilities. (I've misplaced by Office CD, so I can't comment on the Asian Layout abilities of v. X, but I imagine they're comparable to the Windows version.)

    In any case, this is wonderful news for those of us that like to see old school Mac software houses still in the game.

    -- Rob.sig under construction
    Why wait? (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 18, @04:51PM (#22024)
    You don't have to wait for years. Get Mellel which is far better than Nisus Writer for X will ever be.
    "Sneak Peaks" (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 18, @03:10PM (#22039)
    This is what bothers me about the Mac culture -- instead of releasing early and often to get feedback, we're stuck waiting for years while companies offer us nothing but screenshots. In the Linux culture, everyone gets a say at every stage of program development. And the result is easier to use, more powerful applications.
    I've paid for it already... (Score:1)
    by Refrag on Tuesday December 17, @03:34PM (#22045)
    User #572 Info
    I bought Okito Composer several months ago before Nisus aquired Okito. I was supposed to receive Composer 1.0 in September (I think it was) but now it is december and I'm still waiting for the product I've already paid for.

    What's holding them up? I'd like to at least have a more recent build of Writer than the .4 build of Composer that I have.

    Refrag

    Apple, bring back the Cube!
    Nisus Interview - shameless self-promotion (Score:2, Informative)
    by porruka on Tuesday December 17, @02:20PM (#22070)
    User #336 Info | http://www.macedition.com/

    For those who want to hear from the horse's mouth about some of the issues with Nisus on X, Jerzy Lewak (CEO of Nisus) was interviewed on MacEdition.

    http://www.macedition.c om/interviews/int_nisus_20021204.php

    Re:Okito Composer (Score:1)
    by RogueWriter (not@home.com) on Tuesday December 17, @02:37PM (#22074)
    User #8774 Info
    Except for a couple of changes to the toolbar and the addition of macros to the menubar, and some rearranging of the sidebar, all of which seem more cosmetic than anything else (excepting the macros and zoom function), this IS Okito Composer. Before Nisus bought Okito, I'd read that they were having some serious develoment problems. Considering how few changes they've made, I guess those problems were quite real.
    Speed of Development (Score:1)
    by mccoma on Tuesday December 17, @11:55PM (#22126)
    User #4461 Info
    The interview talks a lot about the development tools not being as good as windows. I don't hold with this belief at all. I loved NeXTSTEP and that has continued with OS X.

    What are some of the missing items that are costing other people time in Cocoa?

    On a doesn't really affect a large business-level, I am extemely happy that something that used to cost $2,000 - $4,000 now comes free with the OS.

    Re:Great to see if finally moving along ... (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 17, @02:16PM (#22138)

    (I've misplaced by Office CD, so I can't comment on the Asian Layout abilities of v. X, but I imagine they're comparable to the Windows version.)

    Imagine all you want to, but Office for Windows uses Uniscribe, while Office for OS X does not use ATSUI. Thus the Windows product has far superior support for Asian languages (and other scripts that are best supported by Unicode) than the OS X product. Just another good reason to hope that Nisus gets its act together.

    Re:Great to see if finally moving along ... (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 17, @08:30PM (#22189)
    Writing in Chinese was a pain in the neck in previous versions of Office for Mac, and remains so today. You have to run an "Asian Languages" tool to use Chinese, and this tool changes many of your menus to...Japanese. Support is totally awful, and any time I need to write in Chinese I use Appleworks.
    Wow... (Score:1)
    by codeonezero on Tuesday December 17, @08:20PM (#22240)
    User #6829 Info
    I did get a chance to use Okito Composer when it was new and not quite as polished (well IMHO), still at that time it was great, though I was too busy to really dig into it, and I havent had the need for a word processor.

    But, after looking at those screenshots for Nisus, I'm amazed, it looks clean, and its starting to look like a real Cocoa app IMHO.

    The interface is clean and quite intuitive. I'm glad Okito got taken in by Nisus, not only does a great author get some recognition but Okito reborn as Nisus Writer will probably get a lot more attention now.

    Kudos to Nisus Writer and Okito Composer

    I'll probably hunt down the cash to buy a copy.
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    MacEdition interview (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 18, @08:41PM (#22424)
    http://www.macedition.com/interviews/int_nisus_20021204.php Having read that a few points come to mind: These guys are going from a completely custom text engine (NisusWriter 6,5) to an app that does little more than subclass NSTextView and they're complaining that Apple's text engine is not ready? NW was touted as _the_ multilingual text editor, what sets it apart from any other Cocoa text editor now that they expect Apple to ship frameworks that do everything for them (in that respect, TextEdit would be just as good). The big qualifier to all this is if they're really using ATSUI (though that would be a royal pain in the ass if everything else is Cocoa) as opposed to letting Cocoa do it for them. Just as an aside, this is something really annoying about Cocoa: a lot of functionality is still only available in Carbon-ish framworks like most of Quicktime, CoreServices and ATSUI...I hate that, and there's no clean way to put that functionality in your Cocoa app. Oh well...
    Re:Old Nisus Writer (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 02, @05:07PM (#22604)
    Nisus is what MS Word would like to be,or is transforming into.....I talked to a former Nisus programer years ago, she said MS really wasn't as bad as everyone makes them out to be- then about a year later she couldn't say microsoft without swearing. Seems they colaborated long enough to get what they wanted and then walked way. Thats all ancient history now. Nisus was huge in the mac market for word processing in several arabic and oriental languages.....english too. Mac only and it didn't bog down like word did.
    Re:Old Nisus Writer (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 19, @12:29PM (#40554)
    What is Nisus? It looks like some sort of text editor
    I must be the only one... (Score:1)
    by singularity on Friday December 20, @01:05AM (#40686)
    User #3653 Info | http://www.vampy-alumni.org/eudora/faqs/
    I follow word-processing conversation on the comp.sys.mac.* newsgroups, and I read threads on MacSlash about the different OS X word processors out there.

    I never hear mention of a certain third-party program that has been out for a while and works well - Mariner Write. I used Mariner Write under 7.6 -> 9.1 and upgraded when their OS X version came out.

    It works, and it works well. I do not do a lot of serious page layout, so it more than suits my needs.

    I am just curious why I never hear anyone else every using the program. Surly I am not the only one using the program...

    Am I?
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